Square Based: A Warhammer Fantasy in the Old World

Is the great Warhammer Schism finally coming to an end? For years, the divide between the Main Studio (AoS/40k) and the Specialist Design Studio (Old World/Heresy) banished half our favorite factions to "Legacy" status. But with Horus Heresy suddenly announcing official cross-compatibility with 40k Custodes AND Age of Sigmar Daemons, the wall seems to be coming down! We speculate on what this means for the upcoming Arcane Journals, the "Gargantuan Treeman," the Barrow Legion, and whether we will finally see AoS models officially supported in the Old World.
0:00 - Intro & The New Tomb Kings Reveal2:41 - Are Skeleton Horses Actually Cool?5:31 - The Detail on the New Tomb Guard Kits10:40 - Val's $1,500 Gaming Mat Tariff Nightmare14:35 - Rob's Insane Doubles Tournament Rules20:34 - Event Talk: 1-Day vs 2-Day Tournaments26:03 - What is "The Schism" in Games Workshop?33:45 - Is The Schism Finally Ending?41:44 - Horus Heresy & Age of Sigmar Cross-Compatibility48:09 - Barrow Legions, Treemen & The Future of Legacy Armies54:09 - Outro & SBOT Tickets
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

The original Square Based Podcast where Rob and Val discuss everything Warhammer the Old World. Always be Bassed. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters:
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

The original Square Based Podcast where Rob and Val discuss everything Warhammer the Old World. Always be Bassed. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tourn...
Chapters:
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Draftshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/16...
► Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham! https://tsnarena.com/events/category/...
► Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on PATREON and join us on Discord:   / squarebased  
OLD WORLD RESOURCES
► Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhamm...
► The Square Based FAQ: https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► The Renegade Legacy Pack:  https://www.squarebased.com/
► Our 500pt Foray Pack: https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhamm...
► Old World Army Builder: https://old-world-builder.com/
► Old World Rules Wiki: https://tow.whfb.app/
► Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events: https://oldworldrankings.com/MERCH  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product...
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-...
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

Rob and Val are back in action, and today we are breaking down the Pros and Cons of EVERY single army in the game! Looking for the best army for starting Warhammer: The Old World, or wondering how your favorite Core and Legacy factions stack up? Whether you're deciding between shiny new plastics for Grand Cathay or throwing down with Renegade armies like Skaven and Vampire Counts, this is the ultimate tabletop wargaming faction guide for you. 
If you are looking to start a brand new army in 2026, trying to figure out which faction fits your tabletop playstyle, or you just want to listen to Val ruthlessly dunk on the Empire and Dwarfs for three hours, this is the episode for you.
We are weighing all Core and Legacy (Renegade) factions looking at:
The Models & Hobby Threshold: How hard is it to actually get this army painted and on the tabletop? Are the sculpts elite, or are you going to be painting a hundred tired, shoeless state troops?
Phase Effectiveness: Does the army actually play the game across the Movement, Magic, Shooting, and Combat phases, or are you just skipping half your turn?
Stability & Psychology: How well does the army handle panic and terror? 
The "Hero Hammer" Dependency: Can your faction function without a Lord on a Dragon hard-carrying your entire list?
Core Tax & Armies of Infamy: Are you forced into bringing bad units, and do you actually have fun, thematic lists to build around?
CHAPTERS0:00 - Intro & Val's Return3:25 - Warriors of Chaos30:54 - Lizardmen52:40 - Grand Cathay1:08:01 - Ogre Kingdoms1:21:28 - Empire of Man1:40:57 - Wood Elf Realms1:54:34 - Dwarfen Mountain Holds2:11:30 - Orc & Goblin Tribes2:30:08 - Tomb Kings of Khemri2:44:00 - Dark Elves2:51:21 - Chaos Dwarfs3:00:36 - High Elf Realms3:10:16 - Daemons of Chaos3:18:52 - Kingdom of Bretonnia3:27:41 - Skaven3:35:35 - Beastmen Brayherds3:43:00 - Vampire Counts3:50:18 - Final Thoughts & Outro
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

The original Square Based Podcast where Rob and Val discuss everything Warhammer the Old World. Always be Bassed. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters:
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

The original Square Based Podcast where Rob and Val discuss everything Warhammer the Old World. Always be Bassed. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters:
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

The original Square Based Podcast where Rob and Val discuss everything Warhammer the Old World. Always be Bassed. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters:
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

Rob and Val are braving the Storms of Magic to review the brand new Arcane Journal: The March of Chaos for Warhammer: The Old World! The Ruinous Powers are uniting in the Shard Lands, and we are breaking down absolutely everything this packed supplement brings to the tabletop. Tune in to learn about the new modes of play for Magic with Channeling Dice, Arcane Magic, and SORCEROUS RUSES (and a much scarier miscast table). After that we examine the return of the Hordes of Chaos Grand Army and have a look at the new units you can field with it. Finally, we have a look at the massive new list of common magic items that allow you to bring a little bit of wacky chaos energy to any army in Old World. 
► *Join us at the Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25! *https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters: TBD
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

In this episode, we are pulling back the coffin lid and doing a massive deep dive into the official reveal of the Renegade Vampire Counts draft for Warhammer: The Old World.
We know the community has been waiting for this one. Join us as we break down the core design philosophy behind bringing the "wet" Undead into the Renegade ruleset. 
Remember: IT'S A DRAFT! Let us know your thoughts in the comments. 
► *Join Val at the 2026 Square Based Open Toronto October 24 and 25!* https://oldworldrankings.com/ca/tournaments/square-based-open-toronto-2026-sbc
Chapters: TBD (but will come eventually) 
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy

Everything you need to know about the new direction Games Workshop is taking with Kislev and the glaring absence of the Chaos Gods in the core rulebook. Have the Ruinous Powers been retconned? What does this mean for the forces of Order up north?
​Plus, we’ve got huge community updates! We cover the latest design progress on the Renegade Legacy Pack ruleset for Vampire Counts, show off our brand-new 3D printable wargaming terrain STLs, and drop all the venue details for the upcoming Square Based Open tournament hitting the Greater Toronto Area this autumn on October 24th and 25th.
​Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction & Catching Up
01:29 - Square Based Open Toronto 2026 Announcement
04:30 - Renegade Legacy Pack: Vampire Counts Update
14:45 - Weekend Tournament Recap & Live Stream Highlights
20:47 - Discussion: Ward Saves for Chaos Warriors & Points Balancing
34:21 - New 3D Printable Terrain STLs Available!
36:14 - Addressing the Battle March Box Controversy
44:45 - FAQ: How Regeneration Actually Works
54:25 - FAQ: Wheeling Mechanics Explained
55:38 - FAQ: Cannonballs vs. The Crunch Rule
01:03:00 - The Role of TOs and Respecting Event Rulings
01:08:16 - Lore Changes: What is Going on with Kislev?
01:17:00 - Speculation on Kislev's Real-World Influences
01:31:31 - The Missing Chaos Gods: Where Are the Ruinous Powers?
01:39:00 - Are the Chaos Gods Being Retconned?
01:42:00 - Final Thoughts & Outro
► *Rob's Rulings RE: the FAQ for the TSN Arena*https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XUSGB09PHluYPvc6JXVvJpfASst_Rty_EUJ3Z8vM0Yc/edit?usp=sharing
► *Val's Dissertation on the Regeneration FAQ*https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YiI1iMkIPkxs-qT3yDH4zwsWTQUIiN6jLzGPmGJKnYM/edit?usp=sharing
MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:
► *Links to all current Renegade Drafts*https://docs.google.com/document/d/16kAE-p_CWbsH0XatDPuRao6TngSw-KSweUnJa81kOXE/edit?usp=sharing
► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/
► *Check out Rob's Event Recaps here!*https://thehonestwargamer.com/
►  Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased
*OLD WORLD RESOURCES*
► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs*   https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/
► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs
► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:*  https://www.squarebased.com/
► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/
► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/
► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/
► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/
*MERCH*  https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/
Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist
Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/
#squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy